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Colin Hensley

Ahh, yes, conspiracy theories, we tried to make one up many years ago on Crunchland BBS. Strangely, I can only remember my own idea: "The are trying to destroy the US economy by reprogramming the traffic lights to stay red for longer"

Kevin Carson

What do you mean you "don't believe conspiracy theories"?

You don't believe 19 hijackers conspired to crash airplanes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon? You don't believe Nixon and CREEP conspired to break into Democratic National Headquarters? You believe there really was an attack on U.S. ships in the Gulf of Tonkin, as reported? You really believe that the real motivation behind any government policy corresponds to the official, publicly stated rationale?

EVERYBODY believes in "conspiracy theories." The very term "conspiracy" is a substitute for rational thought.

Mercy

I popped one out the other day without even trying:
The reason Clinton won the CA primary when so many dems I talked to planned to vote Obama is that independents couldn't vote in the repub primary, so all the right-leaning independents voted for Clinton so she'd get the nomination and mobilize the repub base come November.
Sometimes it's too easy.

gerry

I believe Obama will win over Billary. He should be President. The republicans destryoyed the contry and now its time for a change, McCain is too old.

qwerty

What about CAIR, with saudi's money (see M. Moore 911), promoting Obama's campaign?

What about a fake convert who is infiltrating US gov?

What about a never seen before sum of money collected by Obama through small unidentifiable donors?

Think about it :)

Happeh

The first cables were cut by Israel to punish Egypt. The Palestinians had broken through into Egypt, and the Egyptians let them stay and buy things. To force Egypt to reclose the border, they cut the cable which disrupted Egyptian internet traffic and affected business.
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2254669,00.asp

The Egyptians have now reclosed the border with Gaza, and have publicly in the paper said they would break the legs of any Palestinian caught going into Egypt

Once Israel showed how easy it was to cut the cable and get away with it, the USA probably moved on the other cables to isolate Iran, as the other writers have noted.
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AIPAC will choose the next president. Support for Iraq is the reason McCain is winning the republican nomination. The man is 70 some years old and has cancer. There is no way a sane country or party would choose someone like that as a candidate. The chances he will die or get cancer again, must be astronomical.

On the democratic side Hillary Clinton is most pro Israel, so she is most likely to be chosen by AIPAC. It is not a certainty yet though because as the campaign goes on, Obama seems to be making more and more pro Israel statements. If he makes enough, maybe AIPAC and Israel will ditch Hillary and go with Obama.

If AIPAC does go with Hillary, look for the AIPAC controlled states of New York, Florida, and California to all go Hillary. Also, there is a large group of small states that AIPAC has taken over the governorships and Senate and Representative seats. Combine those small states with New York, Florida, and California and Hillary wins.

tony

I'm not sure if you've heard, but a fourth cable was taken offline for 'power problems'. Seriously
http://www.popbattery.com

Val

In the 1970s, I heard more discussion about overpopulation without even trying, with population at 3.6 billion, than I do now, with population at 6.7 billion.

People are more interested in environmentalism, and fooling themselves that they are environmentalists while they produce another little carbon footprint to feed.

I don't see anyone actively hushing it up, but I see periodical articles and columns every day full of writers ranting on about the symptoms - never mind the cause.

Can't think of a funny one. This is too real.

We really are breeding ourselves into a nation of idiots.

dave

Scott,
Since you (and I) believe that the war in Iraq was a mistake and don't believe conspiracy theories, let me pose these two opposing ideas, or theories, to you:

a) George Bush and his administration truly believed that going to war with Iraq was necessary in the war on terrorism, and still is, because of all of the reasons they gave to the public before going to war.

b) George Bush and his administration waged a campaign of misinformation and/or lies to rally public support for the war, while keeping their true motives for the war secret because they would not have garnered enough public support to start the war.

All of the current facts seem to point to b) as the truth, but b) definitely has the mark of a conspiracy theory. Do you believe b) is true?

P.S. I'm more interested in hearing your answer to my question than having it posted to the blog as a comment, but I'll take either.

bob

an interesting side note for all the psuedo-intellectuals present who are so disdainful of anyone of faith:
the majority of religious people actually sit on the left side of the fence, not the right.

Mark

Major League Baseball killed JFK.

Kennedy slept with Marilyn Monroe, who was married to Joe Dimaggio, Center fielder for the New York Yankees.

Dimaggio's name ends in a vowel, and we all know what that means.

Dimaggio was a close personal friend to Francis Albert Sinatra, even accompanying him on the famous "wrong door" raid. Sinatra's last name ends in a vowel, and we all know what that means.

Yankees held spring training every year in Cuba, until Cuba was taken over by Castro. Castro was a promising young pitcher. He once tried out for the Washington Senators. That's Washington DC, home of the Whitehouse and where Kennedy lived. The Senators told him his fast ball was too slow and his curve ball didn't curve. So he took over Cuba and the Yankees lost their spring training camp. Frank's friends lost their casinoes in Havana. Remember, Frank's friends are the successor's to the guys who rigged the 1919 world series.

Castro's name ends in a vowel, but nobody knows what that means.

The Washington Senators played their last season in Washington in 1963. After the death of Kennedy, the team name changed to the Rangers and the team relocated to Dallas, where the assasination took place.

MLB has never officially denied involvement in the assasination.

Oswald, who spent years in the Soviet Union, was undoubtedly a fan of the Reds.

james frotten

my friend made this one

WWII is a myth it never happened its a big cover up to test rations jumpstart the economy and sell video games.

Johan

The cable cuts are targeting the Iranian banking traffic and the Iranian island of Kishi where the oil bourse is supposed to go online 1-11.Feb, but now delayed (due to cable cuts) until 19.Feb. France and Russia are sending their fleets to Hormuz for "practice."

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1067.htm

To the final outcome of these events it is not in our knowing, other than one Russian Banking Official, wishing to remain anonymous, stating that, “Should the Saudi’s effectively decouple their oil from the US Dollar, the United States, for all practical purposes will cease to be a World power as it economy will collapse completely as the US Dollar has no value in and of itself due to the staggering debt of the Americans. Without oil they are nothing."

SlowMovingTarget

Why is the first scenario you think of the one where the U.S. is covering something up? Let's start with the assumption that this was deliberate. There's an alternative explanation: this was a response to provocation.

There has been a lot of recent activity of cyber attacks against U.S. power and utility companies ( http://www.sans.org/newsletters/newsbites/newsbites.php?vol=10&issue=5 http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2008/01/20/cia-warns-of-cyber-attacks-on-utilities-is-wall-street-next/ ). Perhaps the CIA knows just who it was that is conducting these attacks, and just maybe, we shut them down at the source. Maybe.

Johan

Ships did not cause Internet cable damage

"Damage to undersea Internet cables in the Mediterranean that hit business across the Middle East and South Asia was not caused by ships, Egypt’s communications ministry said on Sunday, ruling out earlier reports.

The transport ministry added that footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.

‘The ministry’s maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area,’ a statement said.

‘The area is also marked on maps as a no-go zone and it is therefore ruled out that the damage to the cables was caused by ships,’ the statement added."

smee

Actually Osama is an extraterrestrial who crash landed near Roswell in the 1940s, was on the grassy knoll two decades later, helped fake the moon landing, and is currently selling steroids to MLB players and Tour de France riders.

Fafnir

Scary thing: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/02/06/1431206

So NOW Iran has lost net connectivity. After two more cables were accidentally severed. I think either we're moving steadily out of coincidence territory here, or someone is about to be fired. Like, from a cannon.

Cyrus

Kucinich's aliens cut the cables because they were bored.

Mark

[Oh, and all of the Sarin Gas artillery shells my boys found buried. And ask Iran about Saddam's chemical weapons.

And so on, and so on, you bovine robot.

Posted by: Bane ]

Hmm, if I recall correctly, the shells were duds fired from a 155 cannon. These tend to bury themselves in the ground when they don't explode.

So all your evidence apart from that (rather weak one) is lots of evidence apart from their actual reality.

So where did this huuge train of WMD's go? Afghanistan (the place you left half-arsed done because Iraq was using Euros to trade whereas the Taliban merely helped 11/9 attacks and sheltered OBL)?

Calling me a cow? What about mooo?

Christian

I hate to spoil a great theory, but the same statistic shows Germany as being totally cut off (http://www.internettrafficreport.com/europe.htm). This is as untrue as it gets.

Brandon Mi

giuliani as vp?

thats an even scarier thought than hillary for prez.

~C4Chaos

hah! why would i make up my own damn conspiracy theory when i can just link to the MOACT (mother of all conspiracy theories).

http://www.disclosureproject.org/

~C

NotSoShyJan

Wow. I suspected something "strange" was going on after two cables were cut, I knew it after three. Now there are four? All affecting the same region?

azw88

Nate, perhaps when you are calling people ignorant, you should realize just how the blog comments work.

The name of the author comes BELOW their comment, not above.

It was amenot that wrote that, not me.
And he does have a point there to a certain extent: there are still a number of folks out there that will not vote for a woman or a Black man. They are ignorant folks, to be sure, but they prefer to be called Conservative Christians.

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