Holy crap. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a positive response to a new comic. (See yesterday’s comments.) It looks as if about 80% of you like it a lot.
Let me put that in perspective.
Dilbert is in 2,000 newspapers, and I would guess that only 20% of the general public enjoys it. That’s all it takes to be a big commercial success, especially if that 20% is an identifiable demographic group.
Pick almost any famous music group and ask yourself what percentage of the general public loves it. First, 70% of the public won’t like music from the entire genre (country, hip hop, whatever). If your art moves two-out-of-ten people, that’s huge.
Readers of The Dilbert Blog are far from a representative sample of the world, so one must use caution in interpreting the feedback. As I described in a much earlier post, the thing you look for in evaluating entertainment is physical activity, not opinion. These two comments, for example, are not equal:
1. I love that comic.
2. I added it to my RSS feed.
Saying you love a comic is words. Adding it to your RSS feed, or taping it to your door, are examples of action. While only 20% of the public might enjoy Dilbert, the workplace humor inspires an unusual amount of action. It’s probably the most copied comic of all time, thanks to the Internet. Action predicts commercial potential.
If you look at the comments about Basic Instruction, you see a lot of action. People added it to their favorites list, or subscribed to it, or said they would buy it in book or calendar form.
Opinions were divided on whether the original square-and-wordy format was better than the slimmed down comic strip panel form. The comic strip form is far more commercial, assuming you are selling to newspapers. But as many of you pointed out, the market for newspapers is shrinking. Many of you advise that Scott Meyer should take his work directly to books and calendars and Internet publishing.
Has that ever worked?
Yes, on a small scale. I believe Scott could leverage the visibility he is getting here to earn perhaps $100K per year with a small book deal, small calendar deal, self-publication in smaller alternative newspapers, and a small but growing Internet presence. I put his odds of making that strategy work at about 90%.
Now let’s look at newspaper syndication. Assuming the comic got picked up by 500 newspapers in five years, and licensing started to take off (books, calendars, greeting cards), that would put him in the $500K to $1 million per year range, with lots of room for upside growth. But what are the odds of that happening, even with my support?
Only a handful of comics per decade have made it to 500 newspapers. And the newspaper industry is struggling, so the odds of it happening again are falling fast. In all likelihood, Dilbert will be the last mega-comic, and it launched in 1989.
Syndication means splitting your earnings, typically 50-50, with the syndication company, in the hope that they can more than double your sales. For a complete unknown, as I was in 1989, that’s an easy choice. But Scott Meyer already has traction, a small stream of income from Internet ads and small publications, interest from potential licensees, and now some extra attention from this blog.
What are Scott’s odds of making the syndication path work? If he keeps to the old and square format, I would say 5%. If he moves to the strip form, all things considered, I think his odds of getting an offer for syndication are 90%, and his odds of making 500 newspapers, even in a declining market, might be as high as 50%. If that happened, even if newspapers continued their decline, it would be a springboard to larger book and calendar deals, etc.
The rational path is to try and develop the strip to the point where Scott gets a syndication offer. Then he can make his decision.
Your question of the day is this: Should Scott stick to relationship humor, so the comic is easier to market, or stay broad?
I’ll pause from this topic for a few days until Scott has some more samples.
I personally don't think he should change a thing. I look through the comic section of our paper every once in a while, and on some occasions a laugh may occur, but for the most part what I see is just "cute". "Basic Instructions" on the other hand got a laugh out of me on probably 8 or 9 out of every 10 strips, and I went back and read all of them.
I would hate to see him change to be more like some of the comics that do little to tickle my funny bone.
Posted by: A. Wolfe | August 13, 2007 at 10:35 PM
IMO, he should NOT stick to relationship humor. i read the entire comic archives (like many others), and overall i thought the relationship humor wasn't really his strongest. i thought the funniest things were the generic ones, like "how to smile" or "how to tell a joke", which everyone does at one point but sooo many people screw up.
i didn't comment on the previous post, but i'm all for his original format. i think the wordiness makes it exponentially funnier, and i didn't really think the streamlined newspaper sized frames did the original ideas justice. also, the original format allowed a sort of comic build-up throughout the frames, which isn't possible in a smaller space.
Posted by: grace | August 12, 2007 at 09:59 AM
Stay broad and go with the strip. The 4-panel hurts my eyes.
If you stay broad, you can do "mostly" relationship stuff and the door is open to other avenues. Why restrict yourself?
I like it very much. It's a cool angle and well executed.
Posted by: South | August 11, 2007 at 11:19 PM
Basic Instructions is perfect in its current form (I've been reading it since the beginning). It's a brilliant format, and is always spew-liquid-out-of-the-nose-funny (that's a 5/5), something that's harder to do with fewer words (and/or space).
The new strips, according to my own nose/liquid tests, in the smaller format don't have the same impact. I suspect it's the repeated hits of humour in the larger format that make it so damned funny. Spreading it over days just isn't the same.
(I find the same thing with Dilbert, which is why I read it a week at a time)
Posted by: Bruce | August 11, 2007 at 12:35 PM
It would be a big loss to change the Scot's style anyhow.
Unless it is your subversive action to make his strip less funny than the Dilbert :-)
Bookmarked (next to dilbert).
Posted by: Dramenbnejs | August 11, 2007 at 10:28 AM
Face it Mr Adams, Mr Meyer will soon be snapping at your heels!
Posted by: Simes | August 11, 2007 at 02:16 AM
Quick question, Scott.
What changed between 1996 and 2007? In 1996 you wrote a droll little forward for Guy Kawasaki's "Driving Your Competition Crazy" in which you explained that you don't want to help new cartoonists make it big because you don't want the competition. Yet here you are today doing exactly that. What gives?
I don't chide you for it. I applaud you for the transformation and I think few things could be better for modern cartooning as a whole than to have you start deliberately grooming and mentoring new talent. I guess I'm just curious what brought about the shift.
Posted by: mason | August 10, 2007 at 03:41 PM
Definitely stay broad. I'm already bored with the relationship stuff.
Posted by: Jonathan Allen | August 10, 2007 at 01:18 PM
Relationship humor,
especailly the kind the everyone experiences but no really takes the time to think about.
Point: I had a quirky doorman who loved to talk, so when I had packages delivered he would talka hole in my head until i escaped. I eventually began to circumnavigate this problem by waiting until he was just about to leave to get my packages.
Stuff like that always makes me laugh
Posted by: Kodjo Hogan | August 10, 2007 at 01:10 PM
Yes, www.pvponline.com and www.penny-arcade.com are successful.
I don't know what PVP makes, my guess is over $100k. And PA makes enough to support 3 people full-time, plus they run a big expo every year, and the t-shirts, items and posters they sell do very well. My guess is well over $250k+ a year, based on traffic and banners and assuming some from sales of swag and such. Plus they are working on a video game that has a huge built-in audience, too. That will be worth a good amount, too.
Whereas newspapers are winding down.
I love Basic Instructions. Been reading it for months. Without him tapping into the gaming market, like PA and PVP, I don't see him growing online as big, for some time. But more and more "regular folk" will be reading comics online, and finding his work.
Bottom line, syndication has made you a millionaire, and congrats on that. We are entering a different era, and I'm not sure that's the way to go for future success.
Nonetheless your mentorship will be great for his work, whatever avenue ends up working for him.
Posted by: tenassian | August 10, 2007 at 12:29 PM
It is becoming one of the defining characteristics of the New Media that more people can make less money. To the eyes of the Old Media, this is obviously a Bad Thing. No one gets quite as much attention or makes quite as much money, but if you look at how many more people can make it at least to a good level, and you sum it all up, I'd be sure the overall industry makes more. To add to that, huge chunks of the money aren't going to syndication agencies and other central entities. More of the less money stays with the artists. The same is happening in moves from newspaper comics to web comics, music from CD to download, and sixty dollar video games being pushed aside for dozens of ten to twenty dollar smaller titles, each. The end is more variety, and a better chance of finding something that you like, more people make a living on what they love, and more of the profits staying with the people who are actually doing the creating. The old media will not go away for a long time, and we still need it, but the model simply changes. Cartoonists aren't supposed to make a million dollars a year any more, and that's OK if, instead, twenty or more cartoonists can make a very decent living with their craft, don't you agree?
Posted by: Calvin Spealman | August 10, 2007 at 09:28 AM
I think Get Fuzzy has the potential to be a "mega comic"
Posted by: Steve | August 10, 2007 at 07:27 AM
Stay broad; relationship-based strips get stale & cliched fast.
I loved the strip, added it to my work favourites, e-mailed it home, and used it to bribe myself through the afternoon's drudgery.
Posted by: Ms_Takez | August 10, 2007 at 07:06 AM
He's good. But I don't think he's great. Compare him to the last comic you recommended, "Cow and Boy" and he comes out the clear loser. I think he has a better shot at success doing the internet comic thing, where there are plenty of fans who will visit his site, click on his ads, and buy his occasional books and calendars. I just don't see him appealing to a wide enough audience to get major syndication.
I can name several webcomics that are funnier just off the top of my head, and in the layout form you suggested (not the original, which was excellent for conveying humor) I really can't think of many recent newspaper comics that Basic Instructions is better than.
I think with the failing newspaper industry, syndication is unlikely to produce major benefits for a talented new cartoonist unless they can consistently rise to the level of recent successes like "Get Fuzzy", "Pearls", "Cow and Boy", or "Brewster Rocket".
Posted by: mason | August 10, 2007 at 07:06 AM
I see his work as the large square, in the Onion and also on-line.
Posted by: JFS in IL | August 10, 2007 at 05:47 AM
What is the pay rate for the free newspapers like City Pages or Metro Times? They use the square format for comics like Red Meat and Tom Tomorrow's This Modern World. Has a comic ever moved from one of those to a larger paper? I notice the format of Dilbert is different in some papers on Sunday - couldn't a large square/4 panel strip be possible?
I do like the larger lettering better - even on the computer it was a little hard to read what Scott was saying.
I don't care what the comic is about, but I would like it to keep the same art style, attitude, and viewpoint.
Posted by: D. | August 10, 2007 at 05:46 AM
Why not pursue both paths in parallel?
He should stay broad. Different topics and subject areas keep it fresh.
Posted by: wernman | August 10, 2007 at 03:47 AM
Scott, you wrote
"Readers of The Dilbert Blog are far from a representative sample of the world,"
We may not represent the whole world but we are members of DNRC, so our opinion counts more than the rest of the world!.
Posted by: justbob | August 10, 2007 at 03:46 AM
This situation immediately reminded me of The Joy of Tech. See http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/index.html
Posted by: Radwaste | August 10, 2007 at 02:39 AM
Speaking from a business perspective, I think he should focus on one theme like relationships or business, and try to get syndicated. If nothing else, being syndicated would provide some guaranteed income.
But from an artistic perspective, I think he should continue with his broad focus and not get syndicated. I think it would really stifle his humor.
Posted by: charlie | August 10, 2007 at 02:09 AM
OK, this guy is good and his humor style is very similar to that of our own Scott's - 80% of the blog readers liked it and there were some very flattering comments. He is clearly competition in the making.
Scott (A), here is a suggestion - you hire him as your backup, train him to draw Dilbert, this way you can double your throughput. So when you are 200 years old with writer's block you could be living off of those strips and who knows, people might find a refreshing new perspective to Dilbert.
Posted by: Manoj | August 10, 2007 at 12:59 AM
I think Scott's works are very funny.
1. I prefer Scott to stay broad on this topic
2. I prefer the original 4 sq format. It sounds funnier and more cynical.
Posted by: Rach | August 10, 2007 at 12:58 AM
Comic added to favourites!!
I'd got with relationship humour which can be linked into pretty much everything involving people do in their lives. Relationships aren't just between 2 people. You can have relationships between colleges, between friends, between you and your bankmanager. Plus you can have lots of spin off topics.
The thing about relationships is people can relate to them, they can see themselves in the position of the characters and grow a bond with them.
Have a theme that you follow goes along with branding, and creating a brand image helps A LOT!!!
Mr Adams has said that when he first started he found it weird that people prefered his comics about Dilbert's work life, since he didn't think those were his best ones. However they were the ones that people could relate too. Now look where Dilbert is.
Posted by: Nicholas | August 10, 2007 at 12:30 AM
Of course you've got to factor all the people like me who read (and in this case add the comic to my bookmarks, and would buy the book like a shot if it were to be available) but don't tend to comment.
Your final question can be paraphrased as the age old "should artistic merit be compromised for commercialism?" The answer for which is generally more affirmative in the U.S. than elsewhere.
I would, in ignorance, strongly suggest that not becoming the same as almost every other comic and being individual has to be a good thing. It worked for you.
Posted by: Paul Roberts | August 10, 2007 at 12:13 AM
Relationship humor does seem to be his forte; I'd make it the primary theme. Doesn't mean I'd suggest *only* using it, but primarily using it sure.
Posted by: Jeff | August 09, 2007 at 11:21 PM