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Doodee

Thanks for sharing

eshlong

Wait, how about some answers to the questions at the end of the email?!

Reposted for emphasis:

• Is it true that you have involuntary muscle spasms in your drawing hand?
• Is it true that you once had speaking problems?
• In Pleasanton, California, is it true that you own a restaurant named Stacey's Café ? If so, please note that I lived there before and so would like directions to the place.
• Do you really believe that affirmations can make you achieve your goals, no matter how impossible they are?

Mason

It appears to me as though bobby is a puppet. Sure he can say things about the universe, but it is just as plausible that he learned them from somewhere else. As for the google questions I.E., why didnt he just look up staceys cafe, thats more like making conversation in a letter. He could have looked it up, but he would like a reply from Scott. As well, anyone can learn a big vocabulary. Im sure that if bobby has intelligent parents, then he will talk like them. If he were to happen to use a small vocabulary and say his thoughts simpler, then he would seem a lot more like the average 10 year old. I acted like that when i was his age, just not as coherent. Also, from my expierience, people like him even out with age, he will become more human, (compassionate, caring) see the world in shades of grey as opposed to black and white, and become more and more conditioned to the world. His life would be something like the novel "1984", in that no matter how different you are, and how much you try to stay that way, in the end you realize that it doesnt actualy matter.

home design

So usually you will only be able to present one or two pieces of evidence at a time which makes it easier for someone using Occam's razor to debate against instead of having to explain all the evidence away.

James

As I write this I am beaming, as this is is one of the best things I have ever heard. I am sixteen years old, and have often thought I was unique in my thoughts, which were very similar when I was that age and have continued to develop. The knowledge that there are others out there like me is a heart-warming thought, and as you say indicates hope for the future. I very much wish I could meet with this gifted youngster, and I am very glad you have decided to share this message with us.

Jeremy

The loopholes pointed out in the 4th paragraph can easily be solved.
The first loophole would be that the universe cannot be infinite without ripping a hole in the space time continuum and instantly suck out all the light. However, space is nothing, so the universe can go on forever, because in doing so, it doesnt necessarily mean more matter.
The second loophole is that something needed to have created God, and something needs to have created that being etc.. However, if God is omnipotent, couldn't he have created himself?
An obvious flaw in this theorie would be that no more omnipotent beings have shown up since creation. This flaw could be explained in four ways.
The first way would be to say that there can only be one omnipotent being. However, there is no way to prove this, or disprove this.
The second explanation would be that multiple omnipotent beings have created themselves. However, they each have created a different universe. The multiverse would be the end product.
The third possible explanation is that multiple omnipotent beings have created themselves in our universe, and that multiple omnipotent beings cancel each other out. This would explain the lack of recent prophets or appearances of God.
The final possible explanation would be that there are multiple omnipotent beings all existing in our universe. This explanation explains the amount of religions in our world.
Although it is impressive that the letter was written by a ten year old, it is no better then what an adult of average IQ could write. I am sure that Bobby will grow up to be an excellent thinker, Scott has exaggerated when complimenting him in the end of the article.

P.S. How did I do? I'm 13.

Gimble

He could simply use Google to check the spelling he was not sure on for Occam's Razor. Google was referenced in the letter.

As a life-long astrophysicist student, there were quite a few flaws with a lot of elementry level concepts missing in his post.

KAK

I have an 11-year-old son in a gifted program, and he writes JUST like Bobby - big words and ideas, occasionally awkward sentence structure and a lot of gratuitous parenthetical statements. Oh, yeah, and some showing off - no doubt about it.

Agrajag, the "universe oscillation thing" was in Discover magazine a year or two ago. I'll bet you any money that's where Bobby learned about it.

And for those who doubt a gifted kid's future ability to find people to have sex with, well, where do they think gifted kids come from? Gifted parents, of course. Yeah, I'm bragging. But my MIT-graduate husband and I get plenty of sex, thanks.

Jason

This may have already been suggested, but look into this movie link that I've added, its for a movie called "The night listener". Its one of Robin Williams' "serious" movies, but this situation really reminds me of that movie.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0448075/

Noah Vaile

1) Most tecnologocal breakthroughs come in wartime. War is a great motivator for invention.

2) The cure for all diseases is death

3) Global warming doesn't require a solution, just adjustment.

4) Great literature requires some dialectic.

5) Safety will arise in peace out of war.

Now we can all go back to sleep. thank you.

NW

It's a ad for Google Taskbar duh. The "father" was probably the manager of the marketing department, "Oh yah, yah - he is 10 years old, me and .. Margaret are so pround of him. DID YOU GET GOOGLE TASKBAR YET?!"

Sam

Can we read your reply to that email?

James M. Blanchard

If you ever try to argue with someone that 9/11 was an inside job, you'll probably get the phrase "Occam's razor" thrown back at you to explain away the evidence you present. Occam's razor is the logical principal that states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed, or when it's put in its "simplest" terms: the simplest explanation is the best one.
For example:
Conspiracy question: "Why did our military stand down and why were all those war games going on the day of the attacks?"
Occam's razor answer: "The military wasn't ordered to stand down, they were just caught off guard and the military practices all the time, so having a war game going on shouldn't be too surprising."
CQ: "Why were all of the four planes only about 25% full of capacity?"
OR: "The hijackers choose flights with the fewest passengers, so they would be easier for them to control."
CQ: "How did the towers completely collapse to the ground at free-fall speed when the fires weren't even hot enough to melt the steel?"
OR: "The planes crashing into them caused structural damage and the jet fuel fires didn't have to melt the steel, but only needed to weaken them which caused the trusses to give and the weight of the top section caused each floor to pancake down on each other at a high rate of speed."
CQ: "How was Hani Hanjour able to fly a Boeing 757 like an experienced jet fighter pilot into the Pentagon when his flight instructors said his flying skills sucked?"
OR: "Crashing a plane is not very hard to do. Taking off and landing a plane is the hard part and none of the hijackers were training to do that."
CQ: "Why is there no plane at the Pentagon, but all the passenger's remains were supposedly recovered there?"
OR: "The plane virtually disintegrated upon impact, but there were few parts that survived which are seen in photos and the passengers were identified by their DNA which only small amounts are needed to do so."

Notice how each question seems easily answered by using the principal of Occam's razor. People who use this principal are at an advantage because:
Some events, such as 9/11, have a lot of evidence surrounding it, so usually you will only be able to present one or two pieces of evidence at a time which makes it easier for someone using Occam's razor to debate against instead of having to explain all the evidence away.
Some evidence can be complicated, so Occam's razor can be an easy way out of trying to explain away something that is complicated.
The official 9/11 story itself is very simple (19 Arabs with box cutters hijacked four planes and crashed them into our buildings because they hate our freedoms.), so that fits with Occam's razor perfectly.

Now notice how Occam's razor is basically explaining things as being a coincidence too. Yes coincidences do happen and the bigger the event, the more likely you will find more coincidences. However, each time you add on another coincidence, the odds get greater and greater that they can all still be just a coincidence (unless you think like a coincidence theorist). And remember, the flip-side of a coincidence is a conspiracy:

Coincidence - A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.
Conspiracy - An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Well 9/11 doesn't just have a few coincidences surrounding it, it has TONS of coincidences surrounding it. So far I've found over 200 coincidences surrounding 9/11 with the help of a lot of great websites out there and some coincidences by themselves seem too coincidental to believe they're just a coincidence.
So how can one explain how an event, such as 9/11, can have so many coincidences surrounding it?
"Simple" (and ironically): Occam's razor.
The simplest explanation for there being so many coincidences surrounding 9/11 is that it was a conspiracy!

Case solved.

James M. Blanchard

If you ever try to argue with someone that 9/11 was an inside job, you'll probably get the phrase "Occam's razor" thrown back at you to explain away the evidence you present. Occam's razor is the logical principal that states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed, or when it's put in its "simplest" terms: the simplest explanation is the best one.
For example:
Conspiracy question: "Why did our military stand down and why were all those war games going on the day of the attacks?"
Occam's razor answer: "The military wasn't ordered to stand down, they were just caught off guard and the military practices all the time, so having a war game going on shouldn't be too surprising."
CQ: "Why were all of the four planes only about 25% full of capacity?"
OR: "The hijackers choose flights with the fewest passengers, so they would be easier for them to control."
CQ: "How did the towers completely collapse to the ground at free-fall speed when the fires weren't even hot enough to melt the steel?"
OR: "The planes crashing into them caused structural damage and the jet fuel fires didn't have to melt the steel, but only needed to weaken them which caused the trusses to give and the weight of the top section caused each floor to pancake down on each other at a high rate of speed."
CQ: "How was Hani Hanjour able to fly a Boeing 757 like an experienced jet fighter pilot into the Pentagon when his flight instructors said his flying skills sucked?"
OR: "Crashing a plane is not very hard to do. Taking off and landing a plane is the hard part and none of the hijackers were training to do that."
CQ: "Why is there no plane at the Pentagon, but all the passenger's remains were supposedly recovered there?"
OR: "The plane virtually disintegrated upon impact, but there were few parts that survived which are seen in photos and the passengers were identified by their DNA which only small amounts are needed to do so."

Notice how each question seems easily answered by using the principal of Occam's razor. People who use this principal are at an advantage because:
Some events, such as 9/11, have a lot of evidence surrounding it, so usually you will only be able to present one or two pieces of evidence at a time which makes it easier for someone using Occam's razor to debate against instead of having to explain all the evidence away.
Some evidence can be complicated, so Occam's razor can be an easy way out of trying to explain away something that is complicated.
The official 9/11 story itself is very simple (19 Arabs with box cutters hijacked four planes and crashed them into our buildings because they hate our freedoms.), so that fits with Occam's razor perfectly.

Now notice how Occam's razor is basically explaining things as being a coincidence too. Yes coincidences do happen and the bigger the event, the more likely you will find more coincidences. However, each time you add on another coincidence, the odds get greater and greater that they can all still be just a coincidence (unless you think like a coincidence theorist). And remember, the flip-side of a coincidence is a conspiracy:

Coincidence - A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.
Conspiracy - An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Well 9/11 doesn't just have a few coincidences surrounding it, it has TONS of coincidences surrounding it. So far I've found over 200 coincidences surrounding 9/11 with the help of a lot of great websites out there and some coincidences by themselves seem too coincidental to believe they're just a coincidence.
So how can one explain how an event, such as 9/11, can have so many coincidences surrounding it?
"Simple" (and ironically): Occam's razor.
The simplest explanation for there being so many coincidences surrounding 9/11 is that it was a conspiracy!

Case solved.

James M. Blanchard

If you ever try to argue with someone that 9/11 was an inside job, you'll probably get the phrase "Occam's razor" thrown back at you to explain away the evidence you present. Occam's razor is the logical principal that states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed, or when it's put in its "simplest" terms: the simplest explanation is the best one.
For example:
Conspiracy question: "Why did our military stand down and why were all those war games going on the day of the attacks?"
Occam's razor answer: "The military wasn't ordered to stand down, they were just caught off guard and the military practices all the time, so having a war game going on shouldn't be too surprising."
CQ: "Why were all of the four planes only about 25% full of capacity?"
OR: "The hijackers choose flights with the fewest passengers, so they would be easier for them to control."
CQ: "How did the towers completely collapse to the ground at free-fall speed when the fires weren't even hot enough to melt the steel?"
OR: "The planes crashing into them caused structural damage and the jet fuel fires didn't have to melt the steel, but only needed to weaken them which caused the trusses to give and the weight of the top section caused each floor to pancake down on each other at a high rate of speed."
CQ: "How was Hani Hanjour able to fly a Boeing 757 like an experienced jet fighter pilot into the Pentagon when his flight instructors said his flying skills sucked?"
OR: "Crashing a plane is not very hard to do. Taking off and landing a plane is the hard part and none of the hijackers were training to do that."
CQ: "Why is there no plane at the Pentagon, but all the passenger's remains were supposedly recovered there?"
OR: "The plane virtually disintegrated upon impact, but there were few parts that survived which are seen in photos and the passengers were identified by their DNA which only small amounts are needed to do so."

Notice how each question seems easily answered by using the principal of Occam's razor. People who use this principal are at an advantage because:
Some events, such as 9/11, have a lot of evidence surrounding it, so usually you will only be able to present one or two pieces of evidence at a time which makes it easier for someone using Occam's razor to debate against instead of having to explain all the evidence away.
Some evidence can be complicated, so Occam's razor can be an easy way out of trying to explain away something that is complicated.
The official 9/11 story itself is very simple (19 Arabs with box cutters hijacked four planes and crashed them into our buildings because they hate our freedoms.), so that fits with Occam's razor perfectly.

Now notice how Occam's razor is basically explaining things as being a coincidence too. Yes coincidences do happen and the bigger the event, the more likely you will find more coincidences. However, each time you add on another coincidence, the odds get greater and greater that they can all still be just a coincidence (unless you think like a coincidence theorist). And remember, the flip-side of a coincidence is a conspiracy:

Coincidence - A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.
Conspiracy - An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Well 9/11 doesn't just have a few coincidences surrounding it, it has TONS of coincidences surrounding it. So far I've found over 200 coincidences surrounding 9/11 with the help of a lot of great websites out there and some coincidences by themselves seem too coincidental to believe they're just a coincidence.
So how can one explain how an event, such as 9/11, can have so many coincidences surrounding it?
"Simple" (and ironically): Occam's razor.
The simplest explanation for there being so many coincidences surrounding 9/11 is that it was a conspiracy!

Case solved.

James M. Blanchard

If you ever try to argue with someone that 9/11 was an inside job, you'll probably get the phrase "Occam's razor" thrown back at you to explain away the evidence you present. Occam's razor is the logical principal that states that one should not make more assumptions than the minimum needed, or when it's put in its "simplest" terms: the simplest explanation is the best one.
For example:
Conspiracy question: "Why did our military stand down and why were all those war games going on the day of the attacks?"
Occam's razor answer: "The military wasn't ordered to stand down, they were just caught off guard and the military practices all the time, so having a war game going on shouldn't be too surprising."
CQ: "Why were all of the four planes only about 25% full of capacity?"
OR: "The hijackers choose flights with the fewest passengers, so they would be easier for them to control."
CQ: "How did the towers completely collapse to the ground at free-fall speed when the fires weren't even hot enough to melt the steel?"
OR: "The planes crashing into them caused structural damage and the jet fuel fires didn't have to melt the steel, but only needed to weaken them which caused the trusses to give and the weight of the top section caused each floor to pancake down on each other at a high rate of speed."
CQ: "How was Hani Hanjour able to fly a Boeing 757 like an experienced jet fighter pilot into the Pentagon when his flight instructors said his flying skills sucked?"
OR: "Crashing a plane is not very hard to do. Taking off and landing a plane is the hard part and none of the hijackers were training to do that."
CQ: "Why is there no plane at the Pentagon, but all the passenger's remains were supposedly recovered there?"
OR: "The plane virtually disintegrated upon impact, but there were few parts that survived which are seen in photos and the passengers were identified by their DNA which only small amounts are needed to do so."

Notice how each question seems easily answered by using the principal of Occam's razor. People who use this principal are at an advantage because:
Some events, such as 9/11, have a lot of evidence surrounding it, so usually you will only be able to present one or two pieces of evidence at a time which makes it easier for someone using Occam's razor to debate against instead of having to explain all the evidence away.
Some evidence can be complicated, so Occam's razor can be an easy way out of trying to explain away something that is complicated.
The official 9/11 story itself is very simple (19 Arabs with box cutters hijacked four planes and crashed them into our buildings because they hate our freedoms.), so that fits with Occam's razor perfectly.

Now notice how Occam's razor is basically explaining things as being a coincidence too. Yes coincidences do happen and the bigger the event, the more likely you will find more coincidences. However, each time you add on another coincidence, the odds get greater and greater that they can all still be just a coincidence (unless you think like a coincidence theorist). And remember, the flip-side of a coincidence is a conspiracy:

Coincidence - A sequence of events that although accidental seems to have been planned or arranged.
Conspiracy - An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.

Well 9/11 doesn't just have a few coincidences surrounding it, it has TONS of coincidences surrounding it. So far I've found over 200 coincidences surrounding 9/11 with the help of a lot of great websites out there and some coincidences by themselves seem too coincidental to believe they're just a coincidence.
So how can one explain how an event, such as 9/11, can have so many coincidences surrounding it?
"Simple" (and ironically): Occam's razor.
The simplest explanation for there being so many coincidences surrounding 9/11 is that it was a conspiracy!

Case solved.

E

Scott,

I think a letter of this quality from a 10 year old would be extremely rare, but certainly not impossible. A lot of the people crying hoax haven't thought about what Bobby Fischer, or Mozart, or any number of historical geniuses could do when they were 10.

It makes sense that he IS 10, because while asking the right questions and barking up the right tree... he hasn't gotten to the point of realizing that other folks have probably asked that question too.

The true shame is that his grade school teachers probably don't understand that he needs to be reading Aristotle's Physics next instead of the mealy mouthed crap he is probably getting in English class.

First causes, the unmoved mover... are all talked about by Aristotle in depth... a lot of people who aren't 10 know this :)

It is very impressive that he can see the problem with a cause-effect system at such an early age though - that rocks.

Hopefully his dad has some of the good genes and can position him for some upgrades in terms of education. Give him a place where he can thrive please :)

Diana W

I wish Bobby luck - I hope he fulfills the promise shown by his letter.

But as a couple other people mentioned, there are a lot of detours in life. My best friend's son had taught himself to read and write in hieroglyphics by age 4, but now he's a bipolar teen whose ambition is to open strip joints. And the only person to get better grades them I did in 3rd grade was a friend named Susan. By 6th grade she was a cheerleader hanging out with the cool kids, by 9th she'd dropped out of school, and by the time I was a sophmore in college, she'd had 3 children and was divorced.

I believe Bobby is a nerdy, 10 year old brainiac, and I hope he stays that way!

Real Live Girl

Sounds like a real-life Little Man Tate. He's probably not the only 10 year old out there who's going to make a noticable difference one day, but glad he wrote you and that you shared it with us.

proscriptus

Ten or not 10, interesting question. At age 10, I was trying to talk my Christian friends out of their misguided beliefs, reading the New York Times review of books for fun and exploring Buddhism. I think it is plausible, though unlikely, that Bobby wrote this letter unassisted.

If he did: Your best defense in a fight, Bobby, is the "crazy" method. Don't try punching; grab your opponent's throat and go for the eyes, screaming in a made-up language at the same time. Eventually they'll get the idea and leave you alone.

Don't worry about the girls, either; you'll have plenty of girlfriends later on; become utterly disillusioned with the American educational system and drop out of school; have a long and fruitful career temping and eventually write the great American novel. No worries.

Joshua

The kid was ten, if he was older, he'd have used more periods. Sadly, he probably gets marked off for that in school and the teacher ignores the maturity of his writing.

If he is only ten, sure he'll probably be a industry leader in whatever he does, but then again, he'll become a thirty-something that never had a childhood. Seriously, a ten year old being an aetheist is a little unsettling, most ten year olds still believe in Santa. So this kid is heading to either an Ivory Tower, or a Clock Tower, its a thin line.

Phil

Definitely Asian.

Jorrath Zek

A wonderful letter! Thank you for sharing it.

Bobby-

Your view of the universe is very interesting, but I would ask you to consider that a expanding Universe is expanding in all directions and everywhere. As such, much of the Universe would not be visible to us by the nature that the total distance between our observation and the light sources is expanding at a cumulative rate greater than the speed of light.

No energy or mass can over come that much red shift so the night sky would be in an expanding universe and is in fact mostly black.

In a finite Universe, the night sky would have to be brightly lit by the stars and dark matter (planets and dust), which would have become so hot it would glow continually.

If this topic interests you, I would recommend reading Stephen Hawking's books. He's very good at writing cosmology books that are understandable and not terribly burdened with calculus and terminology.

Matthew Kovich

I was ten year old, not so long ago.

This doesn't surprise me, but it is nice to read.

Tom

A 10 year old did not write this, sorry.

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