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vishalrix

I guess you wrote and posted this piece on your blackberry, after mulling over it on the sidelines of a party ; of which you had gotten bored quickly enough?

If so can you also click some photos and post them too? I get bored wading through all the text all the time.

On a serious note, Scott, you say at the outset that "It’s not worthy of full scientific exploration". It means ( in my hallucination) that you have NO confidence in this explanation/idea. I mean, come on, give the idea some half-broken legs to stand on.

I propose that you should go just a step further and set up a scientific foundation that tests this idea by going to parties to do valuable research. The social implications of such a work have been touched upon by Douglas Adams in one of his more popular ( than .. ) works

PS Drop me a line when you start recruiting.

Drew

I will usually start daydreaming as soon as I hear the words "You see, the process is as follows..."

That is within the first 30 seconds of most meetings.

I usually go to south america in my mind, or I find myself in the back seat of a fast moving car, or even sometimes I compose books in my head full of comments that are obviously too witty for anyone to understand but me.

I am not that smart.

mads

its also called ADD. jk. I so totally concur.

Nimrod

Totally with you on this one.

John

It can't be true, because I have fun in most situations, and I am really intelli--OOH! I JUST FOUND A PENNY!!

http://awritersblock.com

joshua

intelligence is a broad term. it is also multi-factoral. for instance the SATs measure your level of math and english intelligence, but there is obviously more to intelligence than that. there is creativity and hand-eye coordination to name two other aspects of intelligence that is often not measured.

Andy Watt

"More likely they are introverts; there is no correlation between introversion and intelligence."

Ah, now that's a debate all in itself: I think there's often a direct correlation here. A lot of the engineers I know are very very intelligent, but are very introverted. Of course, this could just be engineers, not the very intelligent: if we halfothise that people get promoted because they are great with people skills and therefore people management, and take into account part of the Dilbert Principles, then like a spectacle shaped venn diagram we suddenly find that bosses are socially adept, not introverted and stupid...

Eureka!

Ashwin

:) Not even a day and the sun's already setting on this Halfothesis! :)
wonder how this halfothesis explains Richard Feynman?
Clever little definition though!! :) :)
I gotta add that to my vocabulary!

Insane_inthe_Membrane

Our instincts drive us to talk to each other. It is wise to think before you talk. That way, one would be able to appreciate good things better and see bad things coming. People who talk the most and love talking think less than people who think before they talk (since thinking itself requires energy and hence tires the latter sooner).

It is not always that the people who start day dreaming 1st who are intelligent IMO. Think-talkers who can withstand max conversation and benifit from it are more learned, stimulated and intelligent.

day dreamers are prone to alzheimers :)..i read somewhere.

Think-talkers however need to conform too, otherwise, they will get left out which is like having a powerful computer without much input.

Suddenly i feel like surfing for replica watches :).

Erich

I hope so, because I tune out the second after I say "hello"

Joshua Jacobsen

Hmm... That's a pretty interesting theory. One would think that an exposure to lots of different things would give your imagination more to work with, though. Overall, I guess that I'd agree. If you always have people around and things to do, your brain has relatively little reason to invent things.

minister of silly walks

> Are the people who start daydreaming first usually the smartest people in the room?

Of course we are!

Alan

Scott you are addicted to blogging. Just don't try and get help. ;-)

Alan

Diego

Nice Halfothesis. Love the term.
Of course it stops making sense as soon as you realize there are more counter-examples than affirmative ones.

Ibid

I find that the speed that one gets bored with a group depends largely on that person's intelligence relative to the group. I don't do bars because they're filled with people who find the act of drinking a night's worth of entertainment in and of itself. When stuck in a bar I space out in a matter of minutes. Similarly, when my brother spends time with my friends he spaces out pretty quick when the topic turns to the centripigal force of an object in geosynchronous orbit (0.022G around Earth).

In a group of people of similar intelligence you'll see people drop out over the course of the evening based on their own comfort level of socialization. Some people thrive in a group while others don't. Those who don't become drained by having to try to be social. While they might be able to spend hours pouring over the financial figures for their company they quickly become exhausted while trying to hold a conversation at the office party.

So I guess it's a matter of what kind of intelligence you're talking about. I've got an idiot cow-irker who says every word that runs through his head and can talk for hours to whoever he meets. But he retains facts like a hula hoop retains fish and his work takes five times longer than anyone else and is much worse. I, on the other hand, have to accompany him places to memorize what he can't and wind up doing the work of any three people nigh perfectly. But ask me to go chat up a stranger and I'm lost.

Paul W

Daydreaming would only make you smarter if you daydream about educational stuff; I'm sure plenty of people out there don't do anything mentally enriching in their fantasies.

I would like to see what the difference in average IQ is between Extroverted and Introverted people.

Dave

It's hard to argue with the research that indicates that twins (even if raised separately) have IQ test results that are as closely correlated as one person taking the test twice. At the same time, adopted children raised by the same family have IQ scores that are not correlated at all, as though they were strangers in completely different environments. Barring malnutrition, intelligence is in the genes.

Source: _Genome_, by Matt Ridley

Just Me

Your halfofthesis is less than half. To wit:

Babies who are not stimulated (e.g. kept in a crib in a dark room) have developmental delays.

Not all stimulation is the same.

'Fading' at a party could mean many things, not just 'I have a good imagination and am imagining I am at a better party than this one'. It could just mean they scored some good drugs in the can. Or found someone to 'stimulate' them in the can, and are just returning, sated.

More likely they are introverts; there is no correlation between introversion and intelligence.

My momma always told me, 'If you are bored, it's because you are boring'.

ManuK

It seems that you made a confusion between stimulation and joy. Facing a problem can be stimulating. From this viewpoint, the more problems you had to face in your life, the more your brain had to work to make you happy.
Your first conclusion ( negative correlation between intelligence and joy experience) is right although your assertion of inverse relationship between how start you are and how stimulated you have been is wrong.

Secondly, I am not sure that mental alertness necessary leads to happiness. Isn’t there a verse in the Bible that says that joy is offered to simple minds?

About your concluding question, I think that somebody who chooses to escape a social interaction by daydreaming because he is getting bored is somebody who gives up instead of using his brain to participate and make it more interesting (maybe because he has been used to having fun without having to work for it), which looks like a failure of your brain to find a solution (hence a lack of intelligence).But if escaping in imagination is the easiest way to feel pleasure then this behavior is rational and relies on a choice of life (being happy is more important than showing intelligence). In that case we are no longer talking of intelligence but of wisdom.

Nike

Rita Mae:
Are you imbalanced? Hormonically or something?

You can choose to reply me in private (my email address can be made available on request)

Dilbert's Rabbi

Wow! One party=two posts; must have been SOME party!! I'm guessing Scott was the one who zoned out the fastest and began to construct his next blog post; all the while wishing his guests would eat all the food so he wouldn't be stuck with leftovers.

ManuK

It seems that you made a confusion between stimulation and joy. Facing a problem can be stimulating. From this viewpoint, the more problems you had to face in your life, the more your brain had to work to make you happy.
Your first conclusion ( negative correlation between intelligence and joy experience) is right although your assertion of inverse relationship between how start you are and how stimulated you have been is wrong.

Secondly, I am not sure that mental alertness necessary leads to happiness. Isn’t there a verse in the Bible that says that joy is offered to simple minds?

About your concluding question, I think that somebody who chooses to escape a social interaction by daydreaming because he is getting bored is somebody who gives up instead of using his brain to participate and make it more interesting (maybe because he has been used to having fun without having to work for it), which looks like a failure of your brain to find a solution (hence a lack of intelligence).But if escaping in imagination is the easiest way to feel pleasure then this behavior is rational and relies on a choice of life (being happy is more important than showing intelligence). In that case we are no longer talking of intelligence but of wisdom.

John S

I've got a halfothesis for a dilbert comic. You can not publish the comment if you want to play things close to your chest.

I've become a software developer over the years because I'm good at it, not because I like it. I became a contractor and I've had big wigs ask to meet me because they were impressed with my work.

This year I moved to Taiwan where they speak Mandarin. I'm between jobs really, but I've got a job at a Software Company in Tech support for the Asia Pacific region. My god the sh7t we sell is scary bad sometimes. Unfortunately my name is attached to all my e-mails, this means that people associate this cr4p with my name. I going to ask my boss if I can get my e-mail account changed to a fake name. This "between jobs" could damage my reputation.

Hope there's something in there for you.

GLK

The smartest people are those who do not clutter the limited space in their heads with such claptrap.

Noclue

I've been taught that there are different kinds of intelligence, or "smarts": body-smarts, science-smarts, and social-smarts. Each person is different, and some types of smarts may be easy for them, and some might be hard. Maybe the day-dreaming folks have poor social smarts and the happy party people have good social smarts. Both can be smart, just in different ways.

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